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  2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)

  by Atlantis in

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  2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .

  reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .

  petra!.

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  RayoFlight2014

  Thanks again Petra, I'm amazed they didn't discard the brown "Reasoning" book.

  Page 200 and page 234 and the argumentation in between, under the heading "last days" has become untenable surely?
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  Members or Individuals

  by Dazed_Confussed in

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  any truth to the thought that instead of being considered "members" of the jw organization, that they will shortly be considered only as "individuals" of the organization?.

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  RayoFlight2014

  Watchtower has always kept two sets of books, in one way or another.

  Unless they are expecting to, and have accepted they will lose their non-profit, charity status; they will have to maintain membership and have a means to positively identify those active or "financial" members...that means is currently the field service reports - AKA "The Publisher". "The Member". Same thing. That is what identifies an individual as an active member, and is what Watchtower claims is their charitable programming - the preaching work is 70% of their activities and the only component they can claim to qualify them as a charity.

  Without members, there would be no preaching work, without the preaching work there would be no programming, and with no programming there would be no charity, and without a charity they wouldn't be able to own the properties, land and buildings that are assigned to registered charities.

  Maybe they should start selling them off?....oh wait...

  I'd really love to know how they are rearranging the chessboard.
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  2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)

  by Atlantis in

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  2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .

  reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .

  petra!.

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  RayoFlight2014

  I'd love a copy too, thanks Petra!

  🍰☕
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  Is Watchtower meant to be an actual shelter from reality

  by ToyFish in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciaw0m2-nqi'm a former member that has been out for the past few months and have been doing a lot of personal research.

  i've been having mixed feelings about the gb whether or not their intentions are good or not.

  the fact they have a protocol of moral lying through "theocratic warfare" very much turned me off from having anything to do with the org.

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  RayoFlight2014

  Is Watchtower meant to be an actual shelter from reality?

  No.

  It's meant to distort reality.

  The Watchtower sets up the stage with real, but overrepresented, horrific, and positively depressing features of world conditions. The cult then offers a glossy, promising alternative to a gloomy outlook.

  Watchtower is an insular organisation, it allows you to see only what it wants you to see...within and without.

  Internal and external facades are protected by copyright , anti hate speech and religious freedom laws.

  And those facades are also protected by the intenrnal judiciary process that has little thought for human rights or due process when dealing with rank and file or, ( as in the case of The Purge 1980 ) high ranking officials who went rogue.

  While watchtower portrays an exaggerated negative worldview, it goes to great lengths to keep the curtain closed on its own dark secrets and to maintain a whitwashed appearance.

  
  

  
  

  Keep reading and researching, free from undue influence.

  If you haven't already, read Crisis of Conscience, and In Search of Christian Freedom, by Ray Franz.

  Check out jwfacts.com

  Have a look at, and scrutinize everything you feel you need to.

  Follow the evidence trail.

  Lose yourself. Find you.

  Love is all we need.
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  Alone

  by Youngaposthate in

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  hey you all, i'm honestly pretty depressed on my own out there.

  it's quite terrifying being on your own out there in a lone wolf kinda way.

  i'm not sure how much my brain can tolerate this mest up feeling of social abandonment caused by the borg and family.

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  RayoFlight2014

  ^^ A lot of sensible advice above ^^

  Indeed seek professional help first and supplement that with talking here among friends who understand what you are going through.

  A good site to explore also is : jw.support Jw.support
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  US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely

  by JWTom in

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  there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.

  however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.

  also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.

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  RayoFlight2014

  Thanks for providing the link @ John Redwood.

  And as always thank you Petra @ Atlantis for your diligence.
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  Sad News Of Zing

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  very sad news .i am zing's partner.

  first time on any kind of blog so please forgive any mistakes.

  we have lost zing to the coronavirus this saturday gone, in the early hours.

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  RayoFlight2014

  I'm so sorry for your loss, I just popped in and saw this devastating news.
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  Melbourne Convention Protest

  by jonahstourguide in

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  hi all.. i didn't want to post this in private because i want all to see what i saw.. the protest at the melbourne convention went superbly in my opinion.

  the protesters and their banners were more than eloquent and succinct.

  you could feel the emotion they all conveyed.

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  RayoFlight2014

  Hi JTG, I'm at the protest. Thanks for sharing this it is encouraging to see how we are seen by everyone who is not prepared to lie about the reality of what is happening at the protest.

  If my fellow protesters were acting inappropriately I would not be here.

  We are all lovely people with our own personal issues and characteristics, but on the whole there is more good in us than anything remotely bad.

  I feel great about finally being part of something proactive within my capacity and comfort zone.

  Love you all !!

  RayoFlight2014
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  I realize that this is kind of personal, but

  by stillin in

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  what does being a "spiritual person" mean to you?

  the religion would have had us to believe that our place in the organization is definitive of that.

  or how often we pray.

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  RayoFlight2014

  A brief summary of my trauma induced "spiritual" experience....

  Several years ago I was admitted to the nuero high intensity ward suffering from autoimmune encephalopathy, while there, I had some intense and vivid hyper alert experiences with all my senses that I remember clearly today, as if it were a moment ago.

  For the first day or so, everyone appeared to be talking and moving in slo-mo; I remember being amused by this. It was like my brain had levelled up and I was processing everything at light-speed, I was super aware and I was becoming overwhelmed with stimuli as I was absorbing everything - I could smell the peach jelly that was being brought up the lift from another level- hear someone typing on a keyboard out in the hall - nurses and doctors discussing a patient's pathology in a closed observaton room - and pain....omg...., I was given a needle injection daily of clexane that felt excruciatingly painful, but, (after I recovered) was that painless I asked the nurse if she had actually administered the dose.

  At the same time I felt a strong emotional connection with the other patients in the ward, especially two who had suffered from stroke; I could understand them clearly while the medical staff and others struggled.

  This was my personal extraordinary "spiritual" experience, that I have absolutely no evidence to show for.

  RayoFlight2014.
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  I realize that this is kind of personal, but

  by stillin in

  1. jw
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  what does being a "spiritual person" mean to you?

  the religion would have had us to believe that our place in the organization is definitive of that.

  or how often we pray.

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  RayoFlight2014

  The term "spirit" or "spiritual" comes from a latin word meaning "to breath".

  Religion's, and especially watchtower's hijacking that word, makes me repulsed by the word "spiritual".

  Being spiritual can come from an event or experience that changes the chemistry of the brain that gives a person a hightened awareness or consciousness.

  This can be triggered by religious, traumatic, euphoric and drug induced experiences.

  I'm off to work for now, but if you're interested I'll relate my own personal, trauma induced "spiritual" experience later on this afternoon.